Posted by
toloudol on
Mar 09, 2014; 6:27pm
URL: http://i-come-to-talk-story-welcomes-all-as-we-appreciate-the-many-sk.22.s1.nabble.com/Amazing-how-unaware-we-are-with-Climate-Change-Lets-take-part-in-the-Whole-Earth-Summit-tp7559830p7559831.html
Lou, if nothing to do add some of your thoughts + links here.
the comments after this article are interesting, i thought you would enjoy them along with others;
http://www.takepart.com/article/2013/09/27/ipcc-report-climate-change-bill-mckibben-new-mathResponse from Lou a friend whom i respect. for he has survived, as many have not, as a Vietnam medic, as well personal tragedies as many experience, along with his good participation in his local community, + the work he is presently do_in to help humanity understand about what we can do for our health + how we create our own cancers with the way we think + act + can change it.
thank you Lou for taking the time to share some very real pointers;
Ackbar sez, (this article) "it's a trap", if not otherwise intimidating, and vacuous.
Carbon dioxide is one piss poor, global warming gas when compared even to even mundane water vapor (twice as potent & quite more abundant), but it do make honest, wondrously fine food for hungry plants, as anyone with a real, frame greenhouse would know. In fact bushes will suck it all up and starve if not provided with ventilation or further source.
Carbon dioxide is not pollution. Smoke is pollution. Clean be better.
Your local green thing would probably ask to have you breath in its direction, if it could.
Ultimately all animals are recyclers, we do not create organic biomass, plants do. Wouldn't it make sense to feed them well?
Global warming via carbon dioxide is a high profile lie. There are other gargantuous, extreme and variable climatic factors, such as the sun. Our human spittle should not be ignored in any overwhelming comparison, though.
Carbon is the easiest of all organic elements to control, and so far, the only one that can be readily controlled. Sheesh, every present sources known, is owned or mapped, just but not by you.
So,
Denigrate yourself with guilt.
Demonize life's essentials, while they are being controlled.
Believe and build by our parasitic corporate philosophies.
And all will be well, if you don't ask the impertinent.
industrialized organics
the parasites delight…
Don't forget:
"Fill the masses with a cacophony of contradictory lies, we make our own truths, we rule.
There are too many of you, anyway…, screw reality, screw mother nature, we are your ruling cancer"
Personally i r looking for another planet. Not optimistic, tho.
Maybe kinda flip, apologies, & in review apologies for all the writing/reading errors. Me weird dialectics r one thing, but did make a number of readability errors. Need to fire the secretary.
Fully expected the source, of the article, to be pro nuc, so did cursory review on his list of postings for perspective.
With no nuc either way, foremost anti fossil fuel, pro solar, no obvious listings on the other green "renewables", his agenda then, is promoting climate change as an immediate criticality, with focus on dirty carbon fuels.
Could have approached my response with citations exposing the co2 greenhouse warming as misinterpretations, however the article lent me excuse to be empty, particularly since writing is a huge ass pain. So i gave it a more obvious streetwise, organic approach. Hope this comes thru & u aren't too let down by terseness.
As far as the wholeearthsummit.org thing i have no clue. Fact is i r skeptical of any/all large organizations. My thinking is that, by nature, folk are inherently localized, tribal creatures. Anything larger is ambitious, and ambition should always be surveilled within confines of observable trust. Way too many gangsters, parasites and sell outs out there.
That said, climate change, over population, nuc puke and ecology are not the premiere issues. Gangsters, parasites and sell outs, are. They are the ones that rape and pollute the planet on an industrial scale. They are the ones that want to control all and be blameless. Same old story, different millennia, way higher stakes technology.
No sane, normal person puts a nuc dump or high pressure oil pipeline in their back yard. Too risky. So why do we let other folk create the risk, for others, to begin with?
My guess is ignorance, distance (from risk), a desire to be optimistic and ultimately, absolutely, zero method (or understanding) to oversee potential cancers (gangsters, parasites and sell outs) and hazards, to begin with. For the latter, we just keep leaving it all up to god.
So again, it's not the system that is important, it's the people associate with the system, that matters. That necessitates some form socially empathetic oversight, by at least some majority of folk associated with the system. Otherwise...
Sneaky overlords & wannabees r our real problem. With them out of the way humanities natural, heartfull oversight will be able to take on those other organic problems, responsibly. But it has to be common, we have to be brought up that way.
An individual and communal sense for organic oversight (including cancer watch) is what societal humanity needs to sustain itself, and develop.
God, gaia, aliens, or wishing, so far, just don't seem to be getting the job done.
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It can be said that industrious radioactive Nuc Puke is quite chivalrous.
It do statistically take women and children first…